As the planets – sun planet, moon planet, and other planets – are moving in their orbits, similarly, kṛṣṇa-līlā has got an orbit, and the līlā is going on… Exactly after certain millions of years, Kṛṣṇa’s līlā will be seen in this planet… There are innumerable universes, and it is moving from this, that, this, that…
Kṛṣṇa is born at the prison house of Kaṁsa… Vasudeva, father, and Devakī, mother. Immediately, as soon as the child is born, in the next universe, there is birth. So same very thing.
Just like now it is quarter-to-eight according to sun calculation. Immediately, you’ll find some other place quarter-to-eight. Immediately you’ll find quarter-to-eight in other place. Immediately… So quarter-to-eight you cannot change. Quarter-to-eight will exist within this movement of the sun planet or earthly planet. Anywhere… Somewhere it must be there quarter-to-eight. At any time. Even at 12 o’clock at night you inquire, “What is quarter-to-eight of the sun planet?” you’ll have. Is it not a fact? This is called nitya-līlā. How nicely Caitanya Mahāprabhu has described it.
So kṛṣṇa-līlā is always going on like that. Kṛṣṇa’s birth, Janmāṣṭamī… We observe Janmāṣṭamī. But that Janmāṣṭamī is going on every moment. Janmāṣṭamī is going on. (An excerpt from a lecture by Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Svāmī Mahārāja on January 1, 1967)
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Any question?
Vrajeśa dāsa: I have one. You are our spiritual master forever. When we come back in future lives, how do we find you?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Until you are liberated you will somehow attain the association of akhaṇḍa-guru-tattva (the undivided principle of guru) [in other words, any bona fide manifestation of Nityānanda/Baladeva Prabhu; any bona fide representative of Kṛṣṇa].
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: This question came to Gurudeva so many times. Last time in India, Gurudeva said that the bona fide guru comes in this world again and again in different forms as different manifestations of akhaṇḍa-guru-tattva. But Prabhupāda Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura said that, “If there is one of my disciples present in the world, I will personally come back for him.”
Gurudeva said, “How to reconcile this? Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes are going on in so many universes, and after that Mahāprabhu’s pastimes are also going on. Mahāprabhu came with so many associates, and after that He sends His representatives from time to time – like Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura and Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura – and in this way He sends our guru-paramparā. You will get the association of that bona fide guru who appears on the same planet where you have taken birth.
Rādhā-kānta dāsa: Will it be that same particular guru, or another?
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: It may be another, and it maybe the same. If you have a strong desire for the same guru then you can get the same guru. You may not recognize him, but he will recognize you. Mahāprabhu will arrange that the disciple will take birth, and His manifestation, the bona fide guru, will appear on the same planet.
Nṛhari dāsa: So if you have a śikṣā or dīkṣā-guru, and you are very attached to him, do you get that guru?
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: If guru is a liberated soul, a bona fide guru, you can get that same guru.
Jayanta-kṛṣṇa dāsa: Gurudeva, I have a question. In this material world there are millions upon billions of universes. In each of these universes there are innumerable conditioned living entities. Do the members of our guru-varga, after entering nitya-līlā, also go to those other universes to save those conditioned souls, or do they only appear here on this planet Earth?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Yes, certainly. Vṛndāvana and Navadvīpa-dhāma are present in all universes.
Īśa dāsa: Śrīla Gurudeva, your daughter Sudevī from Alachua said she was told that you said it is okay to read the books of Ananta dāsa Bābājī. I am asking, for her, if this is true.
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: Gurudeva never told this to anyone.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: I have not told that.
Paramānanda dāsa (from Ireland): The ahaṅkāra (false ego) of the baddha-jīva (conditioned soul) is making the body dance according to the vibration of the ahaṅkāra. By guru’s mercy, is it possible to rise above this?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: If you practice the principles of bhakti, the rest will be done by gurudeva. If you are not practicing, gurudeva will not give you the spiritual result. He can do so, but he will not.
Īśa dāsa: Śrīla Gurudeva, is it possible to make advancement by just doing service without doing harināma japa?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: No. Nothing will be there.
Rohiṇī-nandana dāsa: By a sādhaka’s chanting, he cannot achieve prema-bhakti in this body. The maximum he can achieve in this body is bhāva-bhakti. You told us that when he achieves bhāva, vastu-siddhi is still very far away.
When he leaves his body, he will gradually go to that planet where Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura is performing his sādhana, and later, in a future birth, where the Gosvāmīs are performing their sādhana.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: You will hear their kathā, and you will follow them. Then you will take birth at the time of Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura and others. Then, gradually, you will come to Mahāprabhu. When you attain svarūpa-siddhi (the stage of bhāva in its maturity), you will reach Mahāprabhu.*
Rohiṇī-nandana dāsa: So my question is this: will we go there and see the same svarūpa of Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura that we are seeing now in his photographs? For example, he is a little heavyset and Śrīla Gaurakiśora dāsa Bābājī Mahārāja is hunched over. Every day we perform āratī to them, and it is the vision from their photos that comes in our heart.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Uni thākben*. Himself. He will not have a proxy (a person empowered to stand in for another). He will personally be there, and he may have the same features.
Rohiṇī-nandana dāsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda Bhaktivedānta Svāmī Mahārāja will be there?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: That is what I am telling. He himself will be there.
Īśa dāsa: Gurudeva, you are the sum total of our guru-paramparā – Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, Śrīla Lokanātha Gosvāmī, etc. You are giving everything that they are giving us. So, why can’t we take all of this from you? Why do we have to take so many births?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: It is necessary to take many births. When a devotee attains the stage of svarūpa-siddhi, there will be no more births after that.
Īśa dāsa: How high can we go by your association?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: You can progress to an advanced stage of bhakti by this association; by hearing daily. You will progressively graduate to higher stages by the association of Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, Śrīla Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī, and then Mahāprabhu.
Īśa dāsa: You can give us everything Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura can give us.
Vrajanātha dāsa: Gurudeva, you were telling that if we are lucky in this life, and if we are performing sādhana-bhajana, we will take our next birth in the association of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura to receive more training, because we have not attained the level of rati, or āsakti. So they will help us further and further.
Īśa prabhu is saying that you can give us everything, and I am telling him that our container is not so good.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Yes, you are not able to take what I am giving. Can you take it?
Īśa dāsa: Not yet, but I am begging, begging, begging for your mercy.
Śrīpāda Śrautī Mahārāja: Our container is full of holes.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: But you cannot take, meaning that at present you are not able to receive much. I give according to your stage. There are so many things I am telling that you cannot follow.
Rohiṇī-nandana dāsa: Yesterday, Vrajanātha Prabhu was telling me that in Vṛndāvana ISKCON they are playing Śrīla Prabhupāda’s lecture, with a microphone in front of his mūrti. Everyone sits and watches, as if his mūrti is speaking. Is the siddhānta all right?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: It is not all right.
Rohiṇī-nandana dāsa: But you have said he is eternally present.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: He is eternally present; that is true. But there is no need to do this. What is the necessity to put the microphone in front of his mouth? What is necessary is that we repeat his instructions to each other and to others.
Will he speak from the mūrti what is on his mind at the moment? Will he speak, or not? Why this imitation?
Young man: I came from Brazil to study yoga. By accident I came to this association. I found out that bhakti-yoga is the highest form of yoga, so I have come to learn from you.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: You should follow me, otherwise you will not be able to understand. First take harināma initiation, and also hear hari-kathā and read my books.
Mārkeṇḍeya Ṛṣi dāsa: One of Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Svāmī Mahārāja’s disciples in Jagannātha Puri is asking about a devotee who recently left his body. This disciple was asking: On what basis can we say that one soul goes to the spiritual world, while for another soul we just pray that he can get a future birth in a position where he can continue his devotional service?
He was asking you this question because he had read some of your statements. After the departure of certain devotees, you request us to pray to Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa for their souls, and you mention that you hope those souls will get a better birth in their future life.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: If a bhakta is chanting but still has anarthas and has not reached the level of prema, how can he go to the spiritual world?
Mārkeṇḍeya Ṛṣi dāsa: Sometimes devotees leave their bodies in Vṛndāvana.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: That is not sufficient. Rather, such devotees will take birth in the dynasty of bhaktas.
prāpya puṇya-kṛtāṁ lokān
uṣitvā śāśvatīḥ samāḥ
śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe
[A person who deviates from the path of yoga after practising for only a short time attains the planets of the pious and, after enjoying there for many years, he takes birth in a righteous and wealthy family.]
He may take birth in Vṛndāvana, Navadvīpa-dhāma, or Puri-dhāma, and gradually he will develop in his bhakti. Without prema, how can one go to the spiritual world?
Śrīpāda Bhāgavata Mahārāja: In his Kṛṣṇa Book, my Śrīla Prabhupāda says that if they have reached the last stage of bhāva, they will go to Bhauma-Vṛndāvana in another universe, where Kṛṣṇa is performing His pastimes.***
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: First they will go to mahāprabhu-līlā, then to rādhākṛṣṇa-līlā.
Śrīpāda Bhāgavata Mahārāja: Yes. He said they first have to reach this stage in order to achieve that.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: But sometimes, especially in ISKCON, devotees have the conception that by the mercy of Prabhupāda, simply by chanting sixteen rounds throughout their life and by following the regulative principles and distributing books, then, at the end of their lives, Prabhupāda or Lord Caitanya will come and take them to the spiritual world by special mercy.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: They will develop, but they will not immediately reach perfection.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: But in this regard, when you were discussing mahat-saṅga (the association of great saints), you explained that there is a śloka which tells how Gopa-kumāra gave his disciple that blessing.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: If the guru is like Kṛṣṇa, Caitanya Mahāprabhu, or Nārada Muni, he may give such blessings. And still, although Nārada Ṛṣi gave mercy to so many, he never sent anyone directly to Goloka Vṛndāvana.
Only if a guru comes directly from Rādhikā and is ordered by Her to come for that very purpose can the disciple go at once to his ultimate destination. Otherwise, it is not so easy.
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: And Jana Śarmā, the disciple of Gopa-kumāra, had performed so much bhajana.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Jana Śarmā’s guru is an associate of Rādhikā, and Rādhikā gave a special order that Jana Śarmā be taken immediately to Goloka Vṛndāvana.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: One more question in this regard: In your Guru Mahārāja’s biography you have written the story of Anaṅga-mohana Brahmācārī. There you mentioned that although he did not do any particular special sādhana, everyone saw that because of his guru-niṣṭhā and guru-sevā…
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: He did not go to Goloka Vṛndāvana. How would it have been possible for him to go directly to siddha-aprakaṭa Vṛndāvana, Goloka Vṛndāvana? He went to prakaṭa Vṛndāvana (Vṛndāvana as it is manifest in this world).
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: When he passed from this world he was saying, “Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are calling me to Vṛndāvana. Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are calling me to Vṛndāvana.” And he was calling his Guru Mahārāja, “Oh Bābā, Bābā (Father, Father).” The doctors were surprised, because he was saying these things while he had no pulse or any signs of life.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: Oh, so this didn’t mean that he was going to nitya-dhāma. The place he went to was within some universe where Kṛṣṇa is performing His līlā?
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: Yes.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: Still, that’s good enough.
Śrīpāda Bhāgavata Mahārāja: That is exactly what Śrīla Prabhupāda says in Kṛṣṇa Book, Twenty-eighth Chapter, sixth paragraph.
In the past you have said that when we leave this body, if we have done some good bhajana, then we get a chance to take birth with Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura and become his disciple, then Śrīla Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura’s disciple in a birth after that, and so on. Does that mean we leave this universe?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Then, after that, one will go to Mahāprabhu’s pastimes. Only, then, by the arrangement of Yogamāyā, will he go to the planet in some universe where Kṛṣṇa is performing His pastimes in this material world.
This has been written in Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura’s commentary. I speak from authority. I don’t invent my own information. Everything I have written is from our ācāryas.
Śrīpāda Bhāgavata Mahārāja: You have opened up the treasure chest of śāstra with your key.
Aniruddha dāsa: Gurudeva, when the soul achieves the four perfections in the Vaikuṇṭha planets, namely sālokya, sāmīpya, sārūpya, and sārṣṭi (living on the same planet as the Lord, becoming His associate, having a similar form as His, and possessing similar opulences), is there a possibility of receiving a female form? Or, does one only receive a male form there?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: [To Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja] What is the answer?
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: I can only guess, Śrīla Gurudeva, because I have never heard this answer. I would say that it is possible for them to get either a male or female form.
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: It is not that it is possible. It is for sure.
Aniruddha dāsa: If that is the case, do the males and females in Vaikuṇṭha get married and reproduce? A devotee told me that there is transcendental family-life in Vaikuṇṭha.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: These are not good questions, and there is no need to think about this. We should discuss what is real, what we see in śāstra.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: This is described in the Third Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, when Lord Brahmā has a vision of Vaikuṇṭha. It is described that the residents of Vaikuṇṭha, male and female, ride together on bejewelled airplanes. They sit side by side and are both very beautiful, but there is no mundane lust.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: There is no marriage in Goloka Vṛndāvana; Kṛṣṇa and the gopīs are not married. There is no marriage even in Dvārakā-puri in Goloka. Everyone is eternal there, so when will they get married? If there is birth, then gradually there will be childhood and then youth, at which time marriage will take place. But there is no birth or death in Goloka.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: Śrīla Gurudeva, in bhauma-līlā (Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes performed in this material world), the sādhaka jīva who reaches perfection has the opportunity to take birth from the womb of a vraja-gopī. You are saying that this is not the case in nitya-dhāma (Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes performed in the spiritual world)?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: That is correct. There is no birth or death there; the original age is teen-age.
Viṣṇu dāsa: When Gopa-kumāra reached Vaikuṇṭha, the residents of Vaikuṇṭha prohibited him from speaking about the pastimes of Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana. They told him that the Lord’s pastimes as a gopa were performed for the purpose of deception [to deceive demons like Kaṁsa and Pūtanā]. So my question is this: Are the Vaikuṇṭha residents unaware of the glory of Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes in Vṛndāvana? Are they unaware that these pastimes in Vṛndāvana are higher than those of Vaikuṇṭha?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: If the residents of Vaikuṇṭha knew the glory of Vṛndāvana, they would not be residing in Vaikuṇṭha. They do not know its glories.
Viṣṇu dāsa: But even the people staying on this planet are aware.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: That is why this planet is called sādhana-bhūmi (the land of sādhana). Neither the heavens nor the lower planetary systems are called sādhana-bhūmi. It refers only to this planet Earth, and especially to Vraja-maṇḍala, Vṛndāvana, and Navadvīpa, which is non-different from Vṛndāvana. Here, whatever mood in which you perform your spiritual practices, you will attain that perfection.
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: We can practice here, whereas in other planetary systems we cannot do so.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Even those who worship Rāmānujācārya and his followers think that Śrī Kṛṣṇa and all other incarnations come from Nārāyaṇa. They think that Kṛṣṇa is a expansion of Nārāyaṇa. They challenge, “It is not possible for us to serve Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s gopīs, or His mother and father, or His other associates. Nārāyaṇa never comes to this world, so Nārāyaṇa’s manifestation, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, comes here.”
Viṣṇu dāsa: Sometimes we meet devotees, even in ISKCON, who cannot understand that there is something higher than Vaikuṇṭha. They have no desire to understand, so their faith does not develop when we speak to them. Should we just consider that at present this is their adhikāra (spiritual qualification), and there is not much we can do to change their minds?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Yes. That is okay.
Śrīpāda Padmanābha Mahārāja: One more point about this, Śrīla Gurudeva. You have said many times that the jīva’s svarūpa (eternal constitutional nature and identity) is already fixed. So, is it that this is the svarūpa of some of the persons in other sampradāyas who are worshiping Lakṣmī-Nārāyaṇa? Even though they are here on this Earth planet, where Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared, could it be that according to their svarūpa they are meant to go to Vaikuṇṭha?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: This is also true in Mahāprabhu’s pastimes. Śrīvāsa Paṇḍita, Anupama, Murāri Gupta, and other associates were worshipers of Nārāyaṇa and Kṛṣṇa’s other incarnations.
Veṇu-gopāla dāsa: Śrīla Gurudeva, it is stated in Śrī Bṛhad-bhāgavatāmṛta that Gopa-kumāra’s sādhaka and siddha form are the same. How is this possible?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Gopa-kumāra was a special case. He was actually from Goloka Vṛndāvana, and he came here to help us conditioned souls. He thus took birth in the Govardhana area, as a cowherd boy, and he received a guru named Jayanta, who was personally sent by Rādhikā. There was some change in his sādhaka body here, and when he went to Vaikuṇṭha, his body became transcendental.
Śrīpāda Mādhava Mahārāja: His body was not four-handed when he visited Vaikuṇṭha, but it was cinmaya (transcendental, of spiritual substance)
Śrīpāda Nemi Mahārāja: A devotee is asking this question: Those in the Nimbārka sampradāya are also chanting the names of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. What is their position?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Their mood is like svakīya, not pārakīya. They do not take into consideration the separation of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa – only Their meeting – but meeting without separation is like an ocean without waves. Their mood is flat, like a pond with no fish, no sea animals. We Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas have so many fish, tortoises, timiṅgilas, and wales; and high waves, like in Hawaii, up to forty feet.
At first the devotees of the Nimbārka sampradāya worshiped Śrī Śrī Rukmiṇī-Dvārakādīśa, and after some time they saw the prominence of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana and began to worship Them. But their worship is without waves. They have no idea of māna, prema-vaicittya, divyonmāda, or pravāsa. Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī has therefore remarked, “Fie on those who do not consider the separation of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.”
Śrīpāda Nemi Mahārāja: He is asking what is the destination of the devotees in the Nimbārka sampradāya? What planet do they go to?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: They will go to Goloka, but not to Vṛndāvana.
Raghunātha Bhatta dāsa: Gurudeva, I want to ask one question. Sometimes a disciple thinks that the guru cannot understand what’s going on. Is this due to Yogamāyā (Kṛṣṇa’s spiritual desire potency)? Or, is guru testing the disciple?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: If it is Yogamāyā, then what will be the job of Mahāmāyā (Kṛṣṇa’s deluding material potency)? In this world there is no Yogamāyā; there is only Mahāmāyā. There is no need of Yogamāyā here. Yogamāyā plays a part only in eternal, transcendental matters, like Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes, His associates, and His dhāma. That very Yogamāyā, when in the hands of Kaṁsa, became Mahāmāyā; and in the hands of Vasudeva Mahārāja, Kṛṣṇa’s father, She remained as Yogamāyā.
Raghunātha Bhatta dāsa: If the disciple thinks that the guru does not understand, then he himself is in Mahāmāyā?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: I don’t think that all disciples feel this way. It may be that you do, but my other disciples don’t think like this.
Kanhaiyā dāsa (a child): I have a question. In Vṛndāvana the devotees love Kṛṣṇa a lot, and in Dvārakā they treat Him like a king. Is the love in Dvārakā a lot different than it is in Vṛndāvana, or just a little bit?
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: By comparison, there is less love in Dvārakā. There, in Dvārakā, Kṛṣṇa is a king, so He is beyond the reach of His subjects. His subjects offer Him praṇāmas and stutis, or prayers, from a distance.
In Vṛndāvana the relationship is more intimate. Kṛṣṇa’s devotees embrace Him, and they play and joke with Him.
Atula-kṛṣṇa dāsa: Gurudeva, thank you for coming to this planet.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja: Why thank me? Why not thank Kṛṣṇa? Kṛṣṇa sent me.
All devotees: Haribol!
* After attaining svarūpa-siddhi, the devotee first takes birth in a place where where Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is performing His prakaṭa-līlā (transcendental pastimes within the material world). Next, he or she will take birth in a place where Śrī Śrī Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are performing Their prakaṭa-līlā.
** Uni thākben is a Bengali phrase meaning “he will stay,” or “he will remain.”
Uni means “him,” and thākben means “staying the same.”
*** Excerpt from Kṛṣṇa, The Supreme Personality of Godhead (Chapter 28), by Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Svāmī Mahārāja: “The mature devotees, who have completely executed Kṛṣṇa consciousness, are immediately transferred to the universe where Kṛṣṇa is appearing. In that universe the devotees get their first opportunity to associate with Kṛṣṇa personally and directly.”
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